Exploitation of the bento community by marketers
I’m too annoyed to make a proper post today — sorry everyone. Here’s why.
Plus a quick reminder to update your links to point to the new Lunch in a Box blog at lunchinabox.net. Thanks!
June 22nd, 2007 | Categories: admin |
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I'm Biggie: avid cook, speedy lunch packer, mom in San Francisco, & former expat fluent in Japanese. 








June 22nd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
I learned about the lactivist, of breastfeeders vs The National Pork Board famelactivist vs Pork from Tigers and Strawberries blog; while I was quite amused by the story, I didn’t subscribe because I have no plans on breastfeeding. So it’s not like I’m a loyal friend backing her up, but heck, that story earned her my respect! I had no idea she did a Bento blog also, so I also didn’t know she was helping someone (a lady, not a large business) make $ from blogging about Bento.
Many of your posts include products linked through Amazon affiliates — don’t you make $ off that if someone buys though your links?
As long as the product is comparable, and the prices are too, I’d MUCH rather give my $ to the little guy/gal that gives me something for free (recipes, ideas), like you do, and like her blog does. If she teaches the little guys and gals how to earn $ despite big business competition, cool!
I hope I won’t have to skim past more bento fight posts between the little guys and gals trying to make a little $ against the big guys. But if you decide to take on the big guys, wooo, I’ll be cheering you on!
PS: I really enjoy your posts about controlling food-borne illness BTW
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:50 pm
oops, copy/paste error, sorry
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Just a note of support. I think it’s a shame that someone would exploit a community in that way and that people are so accustomed to it that they just shrug it off.
I also think it’s terrible that some people are responding to her attempts to defend herself by pointing to your amazon links. There’s a huge difference between funding a website with ads and joining a community in order to sell people stuff (and then telling other people how well it worked). It’s a shame that some people don’t see that.
Anyway, love your tips, and the site. It would be great if you posted more recipies, too. Everything you have leftover always sounds so delicious. And you’ve improved the quaility of my curry to no end.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pm
I love your site as well, even link to it (haven’t asked you permission though, my emailaddy is affixed with comments, let me know if you don’t want to be linked to). Please do not stop blogging.
Although I get what is at issue I will leave it with saying that you are appreciated, and I’ve read many japanese and english lunch sites since starting.
My attempts to order lunch gear has not gone through though, due to the international angle. If I could give you a paypal donation or something I would.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:18 pm
What’s funny about this comment is you describing the sellers of bento supplies as “the little guys.” Any seller of bento supplies is trying to capitalize on the fact that the stuff sells for dirt cheap in Japan and in select cities. Every seller of bento supplies either on a blog, or on eBay, or wherever… is selling them at a high markup. Whether it be double, triple, or quadruple what they paid for it, they’re all trying to make a quick buck off of something that was cheaply made and sold in Japan.
The difference between Biggie and the woman selling stuff on “the other site” is that Biggie makes a few pennies when we buy something through her links on Amazon or wherever she links to. The other woman is exploiting the fact that 90% of us don’t live in a city where there are Japanese dollar stores or know someone living in Japan, and not only that, but she’s posing as one of us! Biggie makes those few pennies, and she supplies us with invaluable recipes and tips when it comes to bento making. The other woman simply posts pictures, and is making a 1,000 times what Biggie does through providing links.
Also, consider this… Biggie lives in San Francisco and has plenty of VERY inexpensive Japanese stores at her disposable. She could make a business out of reselling stuff from Daiso and Ichiban-Kan at a large markup. But she doesn’t, because she realizes it’s a dirty way of making money to take advantage of a niche market like that. The other woman is taking advantage, and not even being honest about it. I don’t buy stuff from the BentoTV girl because her stuff is marked up a thousand times, and I won’t buy stuff from “the other woman” because of the same reason. I will, on the other hand, continue to read and adore Biggie’s site.
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:19 am
I’ve stuck a reply over at the bentolunches group as well, but just a quick message of support. I love your site and you’ve really helped my lunches get interesting and more healthy.
And BTW, I’d still like to know what your lunch was today:)
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:53 am
Sherie, you won’t have to read bento fight posts from me — I promise! I’ll be returning you to the food ASAP next week, and will continue to focus on providing solid content.
I do make (literally) pennies on the dollar on the Amazon links; last month I made a whopping $20 and change from them. World domination, here I come? It does finally start to cover my hosting & Flickr fees, though, which is nice.
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:57 am
Thanks for the kind comments, Sue, and the request for more recipes. I tend to undervalue my own recipes because I freehand so much — I should try to measure what I’m doing more and pass it on if folks are interested. Glad to hear about your (Thai?) curry! That was another freehand “master recipe” — I don’t think I realized people were actually cooking from my blog!
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:01 am
Thanks, Jessica! It’s terribly nice to hear that I’m appreciated. No worries on the linking; it’s very flattering. If you wanted to paypal me (which I’m NOT soliciting!!!), you could use the lunchinabox AT gmail DOT com address — I linked it to my private PayPal account.
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 am
Thanks docsarah! My Friday posts are usually our Thursday night dinners out of the house, but yesterday we were at an event with food so I just packed Bug a quick snack bento and didn’t take a photo. You’re not missing out on much: Costco chicken salad, leftover shells & cheese with sauteed shimeji mushrooms and green onions, and a separate side dish container with lovely raspberries (got an entire flat at Costco for something like US$7). I was initially going to work up a tip post or something, but my time/energy went towards the bentolunch LiveJournal community today instead. I’ll make it up to you next week…
June 23rd, 2007 at 1:42 am
I know you are not soliciting it. Trust me. The proposal did after all come from me. And since I know that it is time consuming to run a blog, well…
As troubling and annoying as the situation seems, in terms of being used etc., I think that the best approach is to let it go. Online-fighting never amounts to any good. And as with any arguing no-one walks off the stage as the “winner”.
June 23rd, 2007 at 5:54 am
Stumbling across your pictures on Flickr is what got me into bento in the first place. Before then, I’d never even heard of it. That, of course, led me to your LJ and from there I found the bentolunch community. I now have an LJ account that I use so I can participate when I can. If it weren’t for you, I would never have discovered any of this, and thanks for that.
I love your pictures and tips and hope that the Amazon links on your site will eventually provide more funds for you. I appreciate you being honest with everyone.
June 24th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
I just found your blog through stumbleupon and I have to say it brings me joy and inspiration to see such colorful foods in such interesting arrangements. You obviously put a lot of thought into the bento you make for yourself and your child. It’s a lovely artform.
June 24th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
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June 24th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Ah, OK, I think I understand it better now. But as I was reading your reply, another question came up: If a blogger has access to cheap supplies, marks up very little (enough to cover their time packaging and driving to the post office), AND made it known that s/he was getting their cheap supplies locally, would that be more accepted?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Thank you Jessant! Cooking is my passion, and bento-making ties in so neatly with my background that it just makes sense. I’m enjoying reading about the speed bento tips in Japanese books and magazines and adapting them for an international audience!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Thank you for the invitation, Mike. I’ll fill it out this week and submit!
March 6th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Wow, I didn’t even know this kind of profiteering was going on, but I shouldn’t be surprised. Anyway, it’s always a “caveat emptor” market–someone who can’t figure out how to make their own bento box or lunch gear from stuff at Dollar Tree or Target just because they don’t live near a Japanese store–probably deserves to be overcharged online. It’s called “survival of the fittest” and “natural selection.”
Keep up the good work, Biggie!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
@18 from Tory: Thanks, Tory! I’ll keep on keeping on. All is good with me, so I’m focusing on content.